I've just read this blog post by Bea Jaspert on Medium.
It's really interesting reading, not least because I find myself ignorant, conflicted and confused by the matter. It is hard to find people who can coherently explain opposing points of view, without going tribal, us and them, and throwing insults around. I am ignorant (in the genuine sense) and I want to learn more.
I understand there are some people who are intersex or have multiple sex chromosome combinations, beyond the simple XX or XY. I understand gender dysphoria**. What I don't understand is changing your gender identity when you don't want to change your body? I even understand, to a point, is changing the descriptor you use for yourself to a gender-neutral one, as a way to try and promote equality. What I struggle to understand is why can't we celebrate diversity, rather than seemingly forcing a change?
As a child, I wore blue, I had more male friends than female, I got on better with boys, I loved football and had a season ticket at Old Trafford, I enjoyed maths and science, I hated fashion, make-up and especially shopping, I liked rock music, rather that pretty-boy-band pop, I drank pints... I could go on. I am female. I love being female, and I find it crazy that some girls with traits such as mine could be convinced that because of these external things, they may actually be a boy. Similarly, why can't boys like pink, wear dresses, play with dolls, like fairies over action heros, want to grow up to be a dad or a childminder or anything else, without people thinking they are gay (which they may or may not grow up to be) or considered to be less male? The world needs more caring men! Why are we so scared of diversity, that we're coming full circle almost and restricting things to male/female, but based on likes and dislikes, rather than science?
I'm not even going to attempt to talk about things that I don't understand. I saw a meme comparing the treatment of Caster Semenya and Michael Phelps. I can't find that, but did find this article from the Washington Post talking about it. Again, I don't know the full details, but it appears from what I have read is that Caster Semenya is being treated totally unfairly.
What I do know, however, it that women do need to have safe spaces. I spent a few months of my childhood living in a women's refuge, and I would hate to think that the women's safety and privacy could be shattered by a man, who identifies as a women. Before my words get twisted, I'm not accusing all men as being predatory, nor am I accusing all men who identify as women as doing so in order to be predatory, however, women who have finally got to the shelter of being in a women's refuge have been through hell. They need time to recover and grow. They will be on edge, they will be scared, they may make mass generalisations about men, but most of all they need time and they need to feel safe. Safety isn't just a physical thing, they need to mentally and emotionally recover too, and that may not happen if a man is present. If a female identifying trans person has suffered violence, yes, they need to be supported and made safe too. Just, as there are female refuges and male refuges, there should also be various gendered trans refuges too.
Going back to Bea's blog, the comments about identifying as female in the boardroom, or in other scenarios, to claim businesses have equality etc. As a feminist, that is a terrifying prospect. Sexism is real and is innate within our culture. Big businesses are already known to be unethical, so this 'get-around' isn't as far-fetched as it might seem at first glance.
So, am I a gender critic? I don't know. I don't understand enough either way to make that call.
**For clarity, I'm highlighting this has been edited. I previously mistakenly used the term body dysmorphia, rather than gender dysphoria. As I have repeatedly said, I am ignorant, so I apologise if I have accidentally offended anyone. That certainly wasn't my intention.
If anyone reading this is confused about the terms, please read this article or this article.
Trans people are so discriminated against and suffer violent attacks so it's highly unlikely that people will pretend to be women to get any benefit- even if they did that would be criminal and trans people would suffer too. Being gender non-conforming isn't the same as having dysphoria. A lot of trans people are gender non-conforming too. Trans women use refuges at the moment with no problems. I can't see the problem with accepting people as who they say they are - as long as they aren't hurting anyone.
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DeleteIn real life, I agree with you. I have friends who are trans and some friends whose children identify as non-binary. If someone wants to use certain pronouns, I will do my utmost to use them, likewise if they change their name etc.
It's more on an intellectual level I don't understand (and as I write this, I realise that that the cross-communication could be because we're talking emotions?). Fundamentally, I just don't understand why. (eg why would you identify as a differing gender if you don't have dysphoria?) And by realising that everyone is different, maybe I will never understand?
I thought I had made a comment, apparently not .
ReplyDeleteWell, middle aged mum wrote a good piece about it.
What I object to is being told to call an obvious male person by a female name because he/she says so. Such people do it to cause trouble for the rest of us who know what sex we are.
Leslie, you object to calling people by their names? What?
ReplyDeleteOf course when I think what they are saying is ridiculous, as in the case I described. A certain professor of clinical psychology at the University of Toronto has the same views.
ReplyDeleteI think it is far more ridiculous not to use someone's name! What difference does it make to you? I don't know how you can justify being so rude.
ReplyDeleteJordon Bernt Peterson would agree with me on replying to a person with transgender pronouns and refuse to use them. There are a few cases in North America where people enter stores and cause trouble to the shop keeper for not using the pronoun the person / customer describes himself as.
ReplyDeleteI personally, think that I will not abandon common sense in such circumstances.
As he is also ranting about political correctedness and identity politics I won't be taking his word for anything!
ReplyDeleteI personally won't abandon commonsense and will use the names and pronouns that any person tells me they use.
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ReplyDeleteAnother attack on free speech.
ReplyDeleteAs I was the author, I find this most amusing. I only wanted to cancel one of my comments, not both of them. Just to re iterate, I said:something like
ReplyDeleteif a man came into a store saying he was the Queen of England, would you agree with him?
Point of information: I (MMM) have not removed anybody's comments. If any comments have been additionally removed, that was either a glitch with blogger, or user error.
DeleteI have looked at the Activity Log, and though I can't see the posts that have been removed, they BOTH say that the comment was removed by the author.
DeleteImpersonating an actual other person is different. But if someone said they were a queen and didn't want me to curtsey or anything, I wouldn't really be bothered one way or the other.
ReplyDeleteThe fuss about trans women in bathrooms in the US has resulted in a lot of gender non-conforming cis women being attacked as they were assumed to be trans women. Why police people who aren't doing anything wrong?
ReplyDeleteMore likely, as reported , that more men who pretend to be women attack women in washrooms.
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